From: | Doug Strange | e-mail: | AMCAdoug@aol.com |
Subject: | RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Question for Mark Hill | Date: | Thu Nov 12 13:08:33 2020 |
Response to: | 7463 |
Send your magneto to Mark's Magneto Service in Colchester, CT. He's very good and has done three mags for me already, and currently has my KJ magneto for service. His phone in 860-537-0376 and email is marksmags@sbcglobal.com ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- I had a similar problem with my KJ. Starting over time was getting harder and harder. What I found was when the old resin in the magneto windings got hot, it was spraying inside the magneto and gradually as it cooled off, it was getting stickier to the point where the magneto was almost frozen. So try disconnecting the magneto and see if its easier to kickstart. I solved the problem by cleaning the inside of the magneto. This is a temporary solution as at some point my magneto will need to be replaced. Dennis ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Hi Bill, Thanks for your suggestion. Yes. the engine is free. I'm not actually pushing the bike but I can put in into gear and turn the wheel watching the magneto and generator turn. This is also something that has been going on for several years whilst still riding the bike. It has gotten much worse though. Imagining the bevel gears are misaligning, to cope with it in the past Chris would rock the bike in gear to free it up. I would give the kick start lever a few light jabs and it would free up. Rick ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- If you put the trans in gear can you push the bike and get the motor to turn? I have not been following this but it appears as though the trans section of the motor is free but the crank is locked. If the upper and lower motor cases are not very close to flat when the upper and lower are bolted together the cases will distort and lock the crank. Just an idea to look at. ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Thanks Mark for sharing the video and your messages. I believe the kick starter itself is working properly. I just reconfirmed the operation. With the clutch engaged as if going to start the bike the lever will not budge. I literally can stand on it and it does not move at all. Disengaging the clutch and locking the pedal down, the kick start lever moves smoothly and effortlessly. Releasing the clutch pedal and re-engaging the clutch, I can once again stand on the lever without movement. It is as if the engine is locked up but it is not. ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Areas where we have gotten bitten before are in the centerline of the casting boss of the engine Block to Kicker socket in the triple gear We did a massive repair on a 1919 engine Welding/ Machining for a customer and never addressed the Kicker mounting holes in the engine as the were one of the only spots on the entire project that were not damaged. I never caught the mounting flange in the case was not in the same axis as the "triple Gear" counter shaft bearings. The fix was to make a offset kicker socket housing. The next issue to look for is to make sure the sprag teeth completely disengage. The video I posted shows this pretty good. A couple other picky little issues have been the male sprag that fits into the socket housing has to have a minimum of .003 clearance. The flat wire spring that goes between the two has to be in good shape or it can cause a bind. I think you have a alignment issue. Cheers ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- https://youtu.be/7Q5II9tFoHE Please view the following video on Henderson Kicker set up. Although this is a 17 Henderson the system in is really the same. I will try and address areas where we have had problems and share. ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Hi Mark, I asked about this before on the forum and got a few responses but so far nothing worked out. Our Streamline has a kick starter that jambs and won't turn the engine. I recently began looking at it again and still come up with a bevel gear interference problem, perhaps worn shims. Everything in the gearbox proper appears to be working as it should and the engine itself is free. The kick starter frees when the clutch is disengaged and the gearbox can go through all the gears spinning the rear wheel but releasing the pedal and re-engaging the clutch causes the starter to jamb again. I'm pretty much resigned to pulling the engine and I guess I'm just looking for some bit of confirmation that I'm on the right track. If anyone else has had this problem I'd be happy to hear from you too. Rick |
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