From:brad tarkenton e-mail:tarkentn@aol.com
Subject:RE: RE: Warning of a scammer Date:Thu Feb 6 12:51:06 2020
Response to:7258
i was approached two days ago by kelvin max. stated he
was wrecking a 1930 KJ. he sent me a pic of the bike. the
same scam as the rest of you guys got. willing to sell me
complete tail light and carburetor for $250.00. stated
was located in state of oregon. thanks amcadoug for
sending me post.

----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS -----
I received one of these scam messages as well. The
subject of the email I received was a URL on the KJ-
Exchange web site, a link to a post I had made in
February 2018. Although I know there is little he can do,
I forwarded it to David Hennessey in case others were
subjected to the same kind of fraudulent solicitation
from someone who has harvested addresses from posts on
this site.... and it certainly appears that others have
received it.

I doubt that "Kelvin Max" is this jackasses real name,
but I think that if "Kelvin" was drawn and quartered by
four Hendersons, even that would be too comfortable an
outcome.

I examined the header of the email I received. I
indicates it DID come from the gmail servers.
Unfortunately, gmail does not seem to provide a way for
people OUTSIDE gmail to complain of spam. Still, if
anyone reading this received one of these emails from
"Kelvin Max" at their gmail account, there is a tool to
report it on gmail that COULD result in "Kelvin's"
account being terminated. I say "could" because it seems
unlikely gmail gives a crap.

To the extent that anyone who believes they are
financially harmed by "Kelvin Max," there IS a legal
pathway to find out who he is (or gather more contact
information). The legal tool to start this would be to
sue Google for a "pure bill of discovery" in a state
(where you live) that has that arcane statutory right
still on the books (I know Connecticut has it, I think
Florida and Texas may have it) for the purpose of
obtaining information so that you can initiate a SEPARATE
cause of action against the perpetrator. Basically, you
would be suing Google in your local STATE court,
demanding they produce records so that you can identify
who harmed you so that you can sue them.

I actually went through this a few years ago when someone
created a yahoo.com account in my name and then
registered an internet domain and web site account with
my name and street mailing address. I filed a pure bill
of discovery in Connecticut (where I lived) to to sue
yahoo and the web hosting company. The PROBLEM is that
both yahoo and the web hosting company were not
Connecticut companies, so once the judge approved my
bill, I still had to "domesticate" my subpoena (e.g. in
California for yahoo.com). In fact, yahoo.com was
cooperative and told me what they needed, and I gave it
to them. I recall that I even included a line in the
original lawsuit saying something like "counsel for
Defendant yahoo.com indicated that yahoo.com will oppose
this lawsuit."

In the end, I got enough information to indicate it was
one of those Nigerian scams that had used fraudulently
obtained credit card information (from another person) to
do all the account work, but that the accounts were all
cancelled when the credit card company rejected the
charges due to fraud.

Still, this "Kelvin" guy is probably not nearly that
"sophisticated." If someone had much more time than me,
they might reply to him and commence a discussion to
arrange purchase, including asking him the name on the
bank account number to where he would want funds sent. I
had a friend of mine do this with some scammer, stringing
the scammer along for weeks with new requests and
questions. Of course, asking for a physical location
where he says the parts could be inspected would likely
yield no true information, but you never know... a few
guys could go out there and see what was there... and
come back with their bikes to literally rip this jerk
into four dead body parts.

P.S. I hate spam.

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